Andy loses his rag at the listeners at the beginning of this poorly-recorded episode coming from Dave's pad.

First up, a look at this year's winners of the Ig Nobel Prize, a comedic alternative to the more straight-laced affair begun by those Swedish dynamite chuckers.

Next, we attempt a live on air off the cuff translation of Ludwig Wittgenstein's "Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus", considered by many to be the most important philosophical work of the 20th century. Others might conclude that it is, on the contrary, a steaming pile of shite. Draw your own conclusions from our in depth learned discussion.

STAVKA (www.ardle.net/stavkahome.htm) play the song "Sea Shanty", after which the theme of philosophy is continued as we talk about Jostein Gaarder's novel "Sophie's World", Plato's Republic, the difficulties in translating Immanuel Kant into English, and the influence of Goethe's "Faust". Aren't we pretentious?

Finally Dave brings up the rear (!) with some more Japanese idioms, this week on the subjects of outwitting, sneaking around the back, and concluding with a rather large pack of lies.

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